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[damned]

I was wrong.

The lockout happened, congrats on winning the bet sir.

[addulous]

debatable.

[CoyoteQ]

We haven't lost a game because of it...yet. Wasn't that the bet? If we lost a game because of it? Anyways...OSH was right that a lockout was going to happen, regardless of if we lose any games or not.

Hey OSH...look into your crystal ball and see how long this damn thing is going to last.

[Old School Hockey]

I was wrong.

The lockout happened, congrats on winning the bet sir.

Double or nothing this ends very ugly!

I'm hearing Fehrs next offer will get rid of the cap and offer a luxury tax/RS program!

[damned]

Double or nothing this ends very ugly!

I'm hearing Fehrs next offer will get rid of the cap and offer a luxury tax/RS program!

Noooooo, no more bets from me.

I already blame the lockout on the NHLPA and I agree completely they will fuck this up worse then it already is in the days ahead of us.

[Old School Hockey]

Noooooo, no more bets from me.

I already blame the lockout on the NHLPA and I agree completely they will fuck this up worse then it already is in the days ahead of us.

The NHLPA seems to be much more united and steadfast than last time! And the loophole circumventing contracts the GM’s/Owners have signed are NOW helping the players.  All signing bonus are already in the banks and basically many players are not going to get very small part of their salaries.  Weber, Parise and Suter are laughing their asses off right now and ol whiny Leipold is on the hook for 50m!

[damned]

The NHLPA seems to be much more united and steadfast than last time! And the loophole circumventing contracts the GM’s/Owners have signed are NOW helping the players.  All signing bonus are already in the banks and basically many players are not going to get very small part of their salaries.  Weber, Parise and Suter are laughing their asses off right now and ol whiny Leipold is on the hook for 50m!

Yes, that why the players are to blame for exploiting that loophole, I've already told you that many times. It's also why they don't want to change anything, they know it's good for them, the owners don't want to sign those deals, they only do because they have the proverbial gun to their head by, you guessed it, the players and theirs agents.

[Tashimojo]

Double or nothing this ends very ugly!

I'm hearing Fehrs next offer will get rid of the cap and offer a luxury tax/RS program!

Now that would be a re-write.

[Old School Hockey]

Yes, that why the players are to blame for exploiting that loophole, I've already told you that many times. It's also why they don't want to change anything, they know it's good for them, the owners don't want to sign those deals, they only do because they have the proverbial gun to their head by, you guessed it, the players and theirs agents.

So who actually has the upper hand right now?  The players with money in the bank or the owners like Leipold with a 50m debit and no cash flow?

[addulous]

I love this notion that these owners live and die by their franchise.

[Old School Hockey]

I love this notion that these owners live and die by their franchise.

So are saying Leipold has no problem giving 50m for nothing?

[damned]

I love this notion that these owners live and die by their franchise.

Exactly right.

There are teams out there that will actually save money through this IMO.

[Tashimojo]

The NHLPA seems to be much more united and steadfast than last time! And the loophole circumventing contracts the GM’s/Owners have signed are NOW helping the players.  All signing bonus are already in the banks and basically many players are not going to get very small part of their salaries.  Weber, Parise and Suter are laughing their asses off right now and ol whiny Leipold is on the hook for 50m!

A lot of guys did sign extensions and new contracts this offseason, but I'm pretty sure most players did not get signing bonuses this season. Tons of em already have contracts, and not everyone who got new ones got signing bonuses.

However all players will be getting their escrow money, which helps way more than the few guys who get one time bonuses.

You make it sound like Leipold expected to not have to pay the bonuses, which seems absurd. We just found out recently that the bonuses still have to be paid, but I'm sure both the players and the owners knew exactly what they were agreeing to with the contracts that were written this offseason.

[Old School Hockey]

A lot of guys did sign extensions and new contracts this offseason, but I'm pretty sure most players did not get signing bonuses this season. Tons of em already have contracts, and not everyone who got new ones got signing bonuses.

However all players will be getting their escrow money, which helps way more than the few guys who get one time bonuses.

You make it sound like Leipold expected to not have to pay the bonuses, which seems absurd. We just found out recently that the bonuses still have to be paid, but I'm sure both the players and the owners knew exactly what they were agreeing to with the contracts that were written this offseason.

My point is/was how is lockout going hurt many of players like it been said? I'm pretty sure they will be okay for long time. Unless they can't live on 50m!

[damned]

Some of us were predicting it before OSH ever joined... looking back at how confident you were that there would be no Lockout III back around the Paul Kelly firing, I should have put a few bucks down with you and LS.

Should have I suppose, I would have been good for it. I just couldn't predict that the players would be this dumb. You win some, you lose some.

I have no issue admitting I was wrong in life on any stage, everyone's wrong at some point.

[damned]

My point is/was how is lockout going hurt many of players like it been said? I'm pretty sure they will be okay for long time. Unless they can't live on 50m!

lol

You make it sound like all the players have signing bonuses headed their way! In reality 95% of the players will have nothing coming their way by late October.

[Old School Hockey]

Should have I suppose, I would have been good for it. I just couldn't predict that the players would be this dumb. You win some, you lose some.

I have no issue admitting I was wrong in life on any stage, everyone's wrong at some point.

I told YOU Fehr was NOT going be bullied by Gary and blew it off!

[damned]

A lot of guys did sign extensions and new contracts this offseason, but I'm pretty sure most players did not get signing bonuses this season. Tons of em already have contracts, and not everyone who got new ones got signing bonuses.

However all players will be getting their escrow money, which helps way more than the few guys who get one time bonuses.

You make it sound like Leipold expected to not have to pay the bonuses, which seems absurd. We just found out recently that the bonuses still have to be paid, but I'm sure both the players and the owners knew exactly what they were agreeing to with the contracts that were written this offseason.

Not to mention, the owners are almost certain all of those contracts will be worth less then what they agreed to once this all gets settled.

[Old School Hockey]

lol

You make it sound like all the players have signing bonuses headed their way! In reality 95% of the players will have nothing coming their way by late October.

Many contract were Frontloaded and the big money already paid!