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#1 OFFLINE   damned

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:31 PM

A radio station in Vancouver is reporting that the Canucks are kicking tires about Cam Barker. Take it for it's worth, but what would be your thoughts if it turns out to be true?
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:34 PM

Please take him and play him in your top 4. That would help the Canucks demise.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:40 PM

Spengler Cup champ! Can't turn that down.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 02:07 PM

This is a terrible idea. But anything that pushes Alberts further down the roster is fine with me.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:53 PM

This is a terrible idea. But anything that pushes Alberts further down the roster is fine with me.

I'd actually be willing to take him and see what the Coyotes could do with him. :unsure:
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:14 PM

I think it shows just how short most NHL teams are on the defencemen front.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:15 PM

I think it shows just how short most NHL teams are on the defencemen front.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:26 AM

Barker and Alberts will make a great 1st pairing.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 10:23 AM

I think it shows just how short most NHL teams are on the defencemen front.


It's certainly suggestive of a certain amount of desperation on the part of the Canucks, considering that Barker was benched while playing for what was probably the thinnest blue line in the NHL, losing his job to a career minor leaguer.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 03:11 PM

Not desperation. He's a 26 year, 3 overall pick, who lives in Penticton, B.C. that they are letting skate with the team before training camp starts. They haven't even offered him a contract.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

Not desperation. He's a 26 year, 3 overall pick, who lives in Penticton, B.C. that they are letting skate with the team before training camp starts. They haven't even offered him a contract.


Fair enough; I got ahead of myself in that it's not like they've offered him a contract yet. I mean only that his being a 3rd overall pick is pretty far off in the rear view mirror now, having been dealt, bought out, and run off the weakest blue line in the NHL in as many years. To my mind, if they were seriously looking at adding him, it's not a good sign for their blue.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:18 PM

Fair enough; I got ahead of myself in that it's not like they've offered him a contract yet. I mean only that his being a 3rd overall pick is pretty far off in the rear view mirror now, having been dealt, bought out, and run off the weakest blue line in the NHL in as many years. To my mind, if they were seriously looking at adding him, it's not a good sign for their blue.

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hmmm, hard to not see your logic here. However, what's the real truth with this kid? I mean how do you go from being "good enough" to be 3rd overall to this..? Something seems odd here. Was it injuries that spiraled into injuries that spiraled into this and that....akin to Wellwood. Another player the Canucks managed to help resurrect. What happened that led him to where he is now? Has to be more to the story.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:26 PM

hmmm, hard to not see your logic here. However, what's the real truth with this kid? I mean how do you go from being "good enough" to be 3rd overall to this..? Something seems odd here. Was it injuries that spiraled into injuries that spiraled into this and that....akin to Wellwood. Another player the Canucks managed to help resurrect. What happened that led him to where he is now? Has to be more to the story.

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Two ways to look at it:

Offensively - Barker, even in junior, lived and died by the PP, and was helped by being part of Medicine Hat's huge offensive game: they were the runaway leaders in GF in Barker's deaft year of 2004. Pretty much the same story during his NHL career. His one big year, when he had 40 pts in 68 games, he played about 3.5 minutes per night on the PP, just about all with Brian Campbell, and had a big number of 2nd assists.

Defensively - He's just never really gotten it done at ES at the NHL level, but it's also interesting to see the sort of things which have been said about dating back to his draft year. How Redline Report scouted him:

"Big, highly mobile defender has easily the most offensive upside of any blue-liner in the draft. Hardly had to break a sweat this year while putting up outstanding numbers. Didn't often perform at the top of his game - played nearly 30 minutes a game and seemed to pace himself. Is most effective when he forcefully takes the puck and heads up ice, leading the break and creating dangerous odd-man rushes. Has the ability to undress opponents as he goes end-to-end. Excellent vision and can make plays at top speed. A top notch PP quarterback with a hard shot who makes good decisions in puck distribution. Still a work in progress in own zone, but improved steadily in both physical play and positioning as the year progressed. While he lacks explosive speed, he has good agility and his overall mobility is above average."


I don't think anybody wants to see those things being said about young players...

Barker has had ankle issues:
http://www.tsn.ca/nh...rs/bio/?id=4498

Ankle injuries seem likely to have affected his mobility. Combine that with a player who was always seen as a work in progress, and it can be bad news. The history of the league is LOADED with kids who never learned to play defense at the NHL level. Far more than ever did.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:38 PM

Wasn't he drafted by Tallon?

If so... nuff said.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:31 PM

Two ways to look at it:

Offensively - Barker, even in junior, lived and died by the PP, and was helped by being part of Medicine Hat's huge offensive game: they were the runaway leaders in GF in Barker's deaft year of 2004. Pretty much the same story during his NHL career. His one big year, when he had 40 pts in 68 games, he played about 3.5 minutes per night on the PP, just about all with Brian Campbell, and had a big number of 2nd assists.

Defensively - He's just never really gotten it done at ES at the NHL level, but it's also interesting to see the sort of things which have been said about dating back to his draft year. How Redline Report scouted him:



I don't think anybody wants to see those things being said about young players...

Barker has had ankle issues:
http://www.tsn.ca/nh...rs/bio/?id=4498

Ankle injuries seem likely to have affected his mobility. Combine that with a player who was always seen as a work in progress, and it can be bad news. The history of the league is LOADED with kids who never learned to play defense at the NHL level. Far more than ever did.

JR


Wow, nicely said. Good enough for me. I love the detail you mention about the 2nd assist. And thanks I'd forgotten what his injury issues were. You're most likely right, it could be what has changed his game from "ease" to "work" and that transaction isn't going so well it seems.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:45 PM

Well they just signed him...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=413456
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Posted 14 January 2013 - 02:03 PM

Will be interesting to see what comes of this. Pierre LeBrun really likes this signing. Time will tell.
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