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#1 OFFLINE   AUTiger7222

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

From what I have read some of the ideas being thrown about for NHL realignment with the Thrashers having moved and become the Jets. There has been some talk about moving the Red Wings back to the Eastern conference. But I haven't seen one person mention what I think should be obvious, move the Preds to the Southeast division and go from there.

Predators move from the Central division to the Southeast division.
Stars move from the Pacific division back to the Central division.
Avalanche move from the Northwest division to the Pacific division.
Jets move from the Southeast division to the Northwest division.

There is no perfect solution but I think my idea would make the most sense. What do you guys think should happen with NHL realignment?
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#2 OFFLINE   Mishey22

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:41 PM

Well, there was originally a projected mention of the Preds moving to the SE, but then there was that whole stupid thing they tried to implement that made about zero sense.

For What it's worth, I think that is what makes the most sense.

I don't know if the other things need to happen, but if it would help with traveling, then sure.
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#3 OFFLINE   AUTiger7222

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:51 PM

Well, there was originally a projected mention of the Preds moving to the SE, but then there was that whole stupid thing they tried to implement that made about zero sense.

For What it's worth, I think that is what makes the most sense.

I don't know if the other things need to happen, but if it would help with traveling, then sure.


I didn't see that about moving the Preds to the Southeast division. But Yeah. I'm so glad that radical realignment idea they threw out there last summer didn't get any traction. None of that made any sense.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:08 PM

Well, there was originally a projected mention of the Preds moving to the SE, but then there was that whole stupid thing they tried to implement that made about zero sense.

For What it's worth, I think that is what makes the most sense.

I don't know if the other things need to happen, but if it would help with traveling, then sure.


I remember reading that Detroit was promised that they would one day return again to the east. They are EST so I can understand why they would be annoyed being in a division where nobody is in their time zone and having a spot open up in the east and it NOT being them that slots in to it. They will not be happy if a team that is not EST is put into the east and they arent.

I didn't see that about moving the Preds to the Southeast division. But Yeah. I'm so glad that radical realignment idea they threw out there last summer didn't get any traction. None of that made any sense.


I was just talking about this with BruinsHawksGal yesterday. Remember, the owners and NHL did pass it and agree to it, the NHLPA would have rejected anything at that point no matter what because they were trying to make a point about how powerful they were. their rejection was IMO more related to posturing for the CBA debate than anyhting else. I am fully expecting it to be at the forefront after this season is over. I do not think it is over and done with.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:11 PM

For sure, realignment will happen this summer.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 07:46 PM

I remember reading that Detroit was promised that they would one day return again to the east. They are EST so I can understand why they would be annoyed being in a division where nobody is in their time zone and having a spot open up in the east and it NOT being them that slots in to it. They will not be happy if a team that is not EST is put into the east and they arent.



I was just talking about this with BruinsHawksGal yesterday. Remember, the owners and NHL did pass it and agree to it, the NHLPA would have rejected anything at that point no matter what because they were trying to make a point about how powerful they were. their rejection was IMO more related to posturing for the CBA debate than anyhting else. I am fully expecting it to be at the forefront after this season is over. I do not think it is over and done with.


Oh really? I had no idea that the Red Wings were made any such promise. It wasn't until yesterday in fact when I was doing some reading up on the research on the history of NHL realignment that I even knew that the Red Wings used to be in the Eastern conference.

And I didn't know that Detroit is EST. I thought it was CST. Shows how much I know. LOL.

And I didn't know if that realignment plan had gotten passed. I personally am not a fan of it.

This point has been edited by AUTiger7222: 28 January 2013 - 07:47 PM

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

For sure, realignment will happen this summer.


Oh of course it will happen. I was just trying to think of what would make the most sense and be the easiest to do while keeping the current divisions.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:03 PM

I remember reading that Detroit was promised that they would one day return again to the east. They are EST so I can understand why they would be annoyed being in a division where nobody is in their time zone and having a spot open up in the east and it NOT being them that slots in to it. They will not be happy if a team that is not EST is put into the east and they arent.


There was talk during the CBA negotiations that Columbus would move to the east to offset the Jets moving to the west. That would at least take care of the Eastern time zone argument that Detroit would have. Plus, Columbus is a bit further east than Detroit is.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:36 PM

Is anyone against Winnipeg to the Northwest, Minnesota to the central, And Nashville to the Southeast?
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:55 PM

Is anyone against Winnipeg to the Northwest, Minnesota to the central, And Nashville to the Southeast?

Always over looked is tha Nashville is in the Central Time Zone.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:04 PM

I don't see how Nashville being in the Central timezone is that big a deal. Isn't less travel is much more important than a single hour?
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

I agree with Mishey. The plan they had last spring was appropriate. The players rejected it because they're apparently too stupid to approximate sample travel distances.

Go back to that.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:13 PM

While some of the ideas in this thread is aesthetically geographically, the NHL appears to be more concerned with time zone differences, moreso than anything else.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:15 PM

How about like baseball and football have? 2 conferences with each having an East, Central and West divisions?
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:22 PM

Is anyone against Winnipeg to the Northwest, Minnesota to the central, And Nashville to the Southeast?


No. That would be a good idea too. I just have never figured out how the Stars are in the Pacific. If you could open up a spot in the Pacific division by putting the Stars back in the Central then you could put the Avalanche in the Pacific and that would lessen the travel for both teams.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:25 PM

While some of the ideas in this thread is aesthetically geographically, the NHL appears to be more concerned with time zone differences, moreso than anything else.


And see that just doesn't make sense to me. I believe that lessening a team's travel should be of far more importance than time zones. But I'm not running the NHL so I don't know what they're reasonings are for that.

Speaking of time zone's and having grown up in Alabama I have never figured out why Alabama and most of Tennessee is in the Central Time Zone. We really should be in the Eastern Time Zone.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:27 PM

While some of the ideas in this thread is aesthetically geographically, the NHL appears to be more concerned with time zone differences, moreso than anything else.

That's putting a lot of value in things that don't matter IMO. Dallas is Central, everybody else is on Pacific time in that division, The Northwest has Pacific, Mountain AND Central time zones. Geography should be by far the most important aspect.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:33 PM

That's putting a lot of value in things that don't matter IMO. Dallas is Central, everybody else is on Pacific time in that division, The Northwest has Pacific, Mountain AND Central time zones. Geography should be by far the most important aspect.

If geography is most important thing. We'd have to agree Detroit should be with Toronto, Columbus, Chicago, Pittsburgh?
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:35 PM

That's putting a lot of value in things that don't matter IMO. Dallas is Central, everybody else is on Pacific time in that division, The Northwest has Pacific, Mountain AND Central time zones. Geography should be by far the most important aspect.


I completely agree.
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:40 PM

And see that just doesn't make sense to me. I believe that lessening a team's travel should be of far more importance than time zones. But I'm not running the NHL so I don't know what they're reasonings are for that.

Speaking of time zone's and having grown up in Alabama I have never figured out why Alabama and most of Tennessee is in the Central Time Zone. We really should be in the Eastern Time Zone.

The importance placed on time zone differences has everything to do with a drop in TV ratings during late night away games on week nights. Travel certainly affects costs, but not as much as a Divisional game that is only being watched by those fortunate to catch the game at a 7:00 PM start.
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