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The Code debate about fighting in NHL rages on


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#1 OFFLINE   GWTLAH

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:49 AM



It didn't take long. Thirty seconds into his first shift against the Blackhawks on Thursday night, Raffi Torres of the Coyotes was challenged to a fight by Jamal Mayers, who came right off the bench to start throwing punches.

Torres, of course, had concussed Chicago's Marian Hossa during the teams' first-round playoff series last spring with a blatantly illegal hit to the head that put the high-scoring winger out for the rest of the postseason. Torres was handed a 25-game suspension, among the longest in league history. (It was later reduced to 21 after an appeal.)



"I think it was pretty much known it was coming," Mayers told reporters after the game. "Obviously, we have a pretty good memory of what happened ... It still doesn't excuse what happened, but give him credit — he was willing to go."



As fights go, this one wasn't much, but it was clearly retribution, one of those episodes that are unique to hockey, and that those who don't follow or like the NHL can't understand. But for a large segment of the league's fans -- and also for the players and those who administer the league -- hockey's self-policing mechanism is as essential to the professional game as a beautifully executed two-on-one break that ends with a goal.



For critics, the answer is easy: Just ban fighting.



In reality, it's not that easy.



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#2 OFFLINE   **LS**

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:25 AM

I thought Chicago would have had someone tougher than Jamal taking care of business on this night.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:31 AM

He fought... now its over... simple as that


There wasnt a second cheapshot, so as far as im concerned the fight served its purpose.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:07 AM

Ahhhh yeah, there it is again... "The Code", where the players police themselves even though they've been shown over and over again to do a terrible job of doing it. "The Code" is just a self-serving set of rules which shift from situation to situation, based on whichever justification the participants feel like citing at the time. It can't be taken seriously.

I don't mind a good fight, but talking about some Code like it brings honour and enforcement is silly, imo.

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#5 OFFLINE   Big Chief Tomahawk

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:29 AM

I thought Chicago would have had someone tougher than Jamal taking care of business on this night.

Like who? There is no "real" enforcer on our roster. Bollig ends up fighting a lot, but I don't consider him an enforcer. Wondering who you had in mind....
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:50 AM

Like who? There is no "real" enforcer on our roster. Bollig ends up fighting a lot, but I don't consider him an enforcer. Wondering who you had in mind....


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I think the answer is obvious.

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#7 OFFLINE   Big Chief Tomahawk

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:54 AM

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I think the answer is obvious.

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Touche! :hysterical:
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:58 AM

Ahhhh yeah, there it is again... "The Code", where the players police themselves even though they've been shown over and over again to do a terrible job of doing it. "The Code" is just a self-serving set of rules which shift from situation to situation, based on whichever justification the participants feel like citing at the time. It can't be taken seriously.

I don't mind a good fight, but talking about some Code like it brings honour and enforcement is silly, imo.

JR



That's in large part because of the instigator penalty....Also, I think the outside world has overblown the "code"- When players and former players mention it, the press starts to salivate at this covert secret thing that they've been given a glimpse to. It's essentially just "an eye for an eye" mentality that pervades the sport. It's just part of the ingrained culture. There isn't some rally cry in the dressing room - "live up to the code!" type of thing, it's just the way it is.

I really think too much is made of it in the press.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

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JR

He's a lover, not a fighter.

I wonder if he dashed on the limo driver?
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:05 AM

Like who? There is no "real" enforcer on our roster. Bollig ends up fighting a lot, but I don't consider him an enforcer. Wondering who you had in mind....

That's just it. If I'm Torres and I know Mayers is the toughest guy you got, I'm giving Hossa purple nurples in front of the bench all night long.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:08 AM

That's in large part because of the instigator penalty....Also, I think the outside world has overblown the "code"- When players and former players mention it, the press starts to salivate at this covert secret thing that they've been given a glimpse to. It's essentially just "an eye for an eye" mentality that pervades the sport. It's just part of the ingrained culture. There isn't some rally cry in the dressing room - "live up to the code!" type of thing, it's just the way it is.

I really think too much is made of it in the press.


Yeah, I think the concept of it is probably has as much to do with the media as anybody else as well, and it gets the secret society treatment. However, I still think the players have a nice 100 year record of not stopping dirty shit from happening with a fight hanging over your head. Like fighting, it's also part of the game.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:17 PM

That's just it. If I'm Torres and I know Mayers is the toughest guy you got, I'm giving Hossa purple nurples in front of the bench all night long.

Valid point. However, I think with the condensed season, teams will be less willing to run guys. Losing a player to suspension could be especially hurtful to a team's chances since the wins/losses are magnified this year.
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:00 PM

Valid point. However, I think with the condensed season, teams will be less willing to run guys. Losing a player to suspension could be especially hurtful to a team's chances since the wins/losses are magnified this year.

If loosing a guy like Torres is something that hurts your team significantly, you've got problems.

Of course the Yoties aren't exactly burning the rest of the league up right now, but still.
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